Nick Hoss Client Day Game Phone Number Infield Video
by Nick Hoss
Day Game infield video seems to be the hot item right now in the PUA community. Once you take a day game bootcamp, it’s really not all that hard to stop a girl, start a conversation and collect a phone number.
However, practice does make perfect, and there was no better place for a day game beginner to practice than on Love Systems Project Rockstar last year. We selected seven applicants for the eight-week program and went out with them everyday.
One of them was Matt, and we caught him on the infield video below.
In this video:
The video is first shown raw. In the second showing, I give body language and non-verbal tips are in my live commentary. (Unfortunately we didn’t catch the initial approach, but you can see one in Adam’s day game infield video.) I was standing next to the camera on a bridge above this sidewalk. I couldn’t hear what Matt was saying but I could clearly see the interaction. Often on my day game bootcamps I can give the other students watching the set advice like I’m saying in my commentary, and when the set is over I can break down the above with the student right after set (like I’ve written below). It’s a highly effective way to learn from multiple angles.
0:07 – I really like Matt’s vibe here. He’s genuine but not taking things too seriously.
0:10 – Standard day game reaction. The girl says thank you and almost continues about her way. Matt remains calm (vocal tone and body language), holds his frame and follows up. In doing this, the girl stays.
0:21 - Matt stumbles a little here, but keeps the conversation going. He should be trying to spike some buying temperature here and try to hook the girl a little more. He can do this through a cold read, tease, or story. He could also have used a qualifier on a girl who gave him a better initial response. He needs to lead the conversation early. Asking a rapport seeking question (“What’s your name?” “What are you up to today?”) early isn’t a bad strategy, but you have to follow up answer by giving some value (a tease, leading into a story of your own, etc.). This take practice, but that first minute colors the rest of the interaction.
0:31 - He breaks nicely into contextual talk here, which is an easy way to ease the girl into the conversation. Day game puts the girl on the spot, so it can be beneficial to let her know what you’re doing and what she is doing. This also can help you figure out logistics and how much time you have. (Eg. Is she on the last minutes of her lunch break or is she out shopping all afternoon?)
1:56 - The girl asks Matt what he’s doing in Stockholm and why he’s travelling. Under normal circumstances, this would have been a really good spot for him to build some attraction/comfort through storytelling. However, saying “I’m here for Project Rockstar” probably wouldn’t have been all that beneficial. He still does a good job leading into his Thailand story, starts giving his opinion and the conversation opens up.
2:36 - Ignoring the van driver was a good idea. Ignore what doesn’t help you.
2:39 - The girl likes the travel topic, and when she says that she doesn’t like America Matt must have given her a great facial expression judging by her response. This is about three or four minutes in, and this is when she starts opening up and starts to get comfortable. This is common in day game, and two minutes is not all that long of time, which is why your sets should generally be five to 10 minutes long.
2:54 - At this point, Matt goes for the number. It’s good that he recognized to talk to her a little longer than when he initially pulled out his phone so he can build some rapport with her. This will decrease his likelihood of flakes. A five minute conversation would have been ideal, but Matt gets the job done here.
A real key to take away from this video is that you need to ease the girl into the set. With day game, you’re a stranger stopping another stranger on the street striking up a conversation out of mid-air. It takes time for both of you to settle in and get comfortable. Matt demonstrates this well.
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Great video. Two questions…
1. You say his body language at the start is too rigid – are hand gestures truly necessary? I have never been a big hand gesturer and have gotten comfortable putting my thumbs in my back pockets while I speak to girls. My body is open and I feel comfortable, is this a problem?
2. Wouldn’t the phone number from this type of extremely short interaction be rather difficult to convert into a date given the lack of qualification,comfort etc. One daygame guru says he feels it makes little difference whether he spends 2 minutes or 20 speaking to her – flakiness will be the same…thoughts?
Thanks
1.) The key in any social situation is to look relaxed within yourself. When I say “rigid” I mean don’t stand like a post frozen in the ground. Gestures help to capture attention and reinforce emotion. As long as you looked relaxed within yourself, you’re fine. I used to put my hands in my back pockets when I started because I felt too nervous moving them as I spoke. If it works for you, great.
2.) Yes, it will definitely be more likely to flake. (I honestly don’t know if Matt even tried for a date because we went out EVERY night on Rockstar. Doesn’t matter really.) You want at least five minutes, hopefully 10. I’ve had interactions go 20, but usually I don’t have that kind of time AND I like to apply the George Costanza rule–get ‘em laughing and leave on a high note… or in other words, show her your best stuff, get the number and let her fill in the gaps later. Twenty-minute interactions (and instadates) sometimes have you hitting the high point and then going back down again because you’re just standing on the street talking and talking. The intrigue gets killed a little if you don’t continue to be interesting, and you can’t escalate (logistically, physically) like you could on a date right there on the street… Anyway, long story short, get enough qualification and comfort that she would feel good about going on a date with you and not see you so much as a stranger anymore.
Good questions.
Yeah, that Guru must be Paul Janka. There is some truth to that. But, he plays the numbers game and does not devote too much time to any interaction. Why spend 25 minutes on one girl, when you can spend 2-3 minutes and move on to the other … His hit ratio is low, but he approaches, or used to at least, many girls during the day …
I think if you are approaching 1 or 2 a day, it probably pays to invest in the interaction more and build rapport, but if you live and work in a high traffic area like in NYC, its probably better to do your Spiel in under 3 minutes and move to another prey. Plus the more girls you talk to, the less anxious you will be and better the game will get
Also, from my experience, I have f-d a up a lot by overstaying my welcome. We, guys, tend to say shit that raises red flags in females’ minds.
But at the end of the day, it all depends on the circumstances.
This is just awesome man!
Hearing the interaction and then having your step by step breakdown is a beautiful thing. Videos like this bridge the learning gap between hearing the method in seminar and actually doing it on the street.
The blog is really well put together too. I’m just learning WordPress today and thought I had it figured out. It seems i need to do some more research lol.
Thanks man, I can`t wait to see more.
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